my question is...Do you wheel alot?

 

Well i really just want the ruby because it has all the technical stuff already in it. I can install Lifts and wheels and all that jazz in the shop with my step dad. But when it comes to putting on new axles and all that i would just like to have a rubicon with it all already done from the factory with the warranty from jeep. And on top of that i would be getting my nice hard top Navigation and my auto gears. I just think i would be much happier with it and building off of that slate. I think i just rushed into buying my old jeep because there was no rubicons for sale around me. But now my brother wants a stick shift and i don't so it would work out.

Ah ok i see what your saying. I thought you were just trying to be like "grrr.. you shouldn't have a lift at that age." I see what your saying. Luckily around where i live its pretty calm. its all slow speed limit back roads basically and my mother is only going to allow my brother to drive to and from school until he is 17 so he will get his practice im sure. But i understand what your saying now. Me personally i just feel MUCH more comfy in my jeep than i did in my car, but that may be rare. I just like the up high feeling. Much safer feeling IMO.

Well i have to drive around ALOT and soon to be even more since will be leaving to go to ATC school in Oklahoma. But its just much easier to drive and auto around town and still have fun off road. I really enjoy the 6 spd to, its just it really gets annoying when going on long trips. For instance, i just got back from boca grand in south florida last week, and on the way down its already a 6 hour trip and on top of that i had to tack on 3 more hours because of that crash involving the tanker taking out the over pass and we had to be re-routed through the city were we barely moved for 3 hours. feathering the cluth that long just really takes a toll :P

At this point its not very often. But when im done in air traffic control school i will be moving to alaska. And once up there... thats all im going to do =D part of the reason i chose alaska.

 

And also ty to all of your guys for being much more helpful. i appreacitate all the posts. keep them coming

 

I am really not being a smart a$$, but if money doesn't matter (sounds like it doesn't) get what you want. Sounds like you already made up your mind before you started this thread. Get the Rubicon. Done Deal.

 

They flip easy. Even when they aren't lifted. Moreso when they are.
I speak from experience ---> this is my 3rd (technically 4th) Jeep now.

In addition, I know 3 people personally that were in a Jeep accident where it had flipped... All 3 lost control on the paved road

Heck- there was even one in the news the other day & the driver died ---> It was an 18 year old kid...

Now that I think about it, about a year ago on our road, A local also lost his life flipping his Jeep.

All the people that I just mentioned either died or were injured quite severely.
Jeeps are tippy.

You combine those facts with inexperience and it is just a bad combination.

...I would never EVER have considered getting a Jeep for my daughter when she got her license.

Just my

 

the dealer put them on when they got it i guess? they were there when i found it. i like them, they go witht he lines of the jeep well but i wish they offerd protection. oh well

 

Well money is an issue a little. if i get a ruby its gonna have to be stock a while were if i were to keep this i could contunie with mods still. Its more of a "is it supid or not" thing. Once i move out in a couple months im going to have to take over payments anyway so if i get a ruby more is gonna come out of my pocket any way you look at it. I just think i would feel better paying a little more for something im happier with i think.


Was this on a mountain side? or was this on flat roads like florida? i havent heard about that kinda stuff here. Theres nowhere really to get to squirly around here.

Ah thats kool. Thats the first time i have seen that.

 

2 of them were in the city -On a flat road like what you have in Florida.
Both were kids and they swerved to avoid an obstacle.

Ok...Now that I have preached my motherly point of view- I wish you and your brother good luck and please be safe.

 

This should stay on the topic at hand....and not have anything to do with personal life...

For a person like me with some money constraints and thinking about the future payments... your take over payments are going to be much higher in the Rubi...

That said...you get a nice fresh palette to start over with; better transfer case, dana 44, non painted fenders, automatic

Im not sure if you are paying for the new parts yourself because you may be like us and driving around in a non hugely built vehicle for awhile until you can afford it

LA lift - 3k at least
Wheels and Tires - 2k
Your rent...although you will be in alaska (cheap)
and Jeep payments

 

You just answered your own question. THE END