I run 35s with stock gears (4.10) and an automatic. On the 2 lane roads around here I learned to just turn off the OD and leave it off. I'm turning about 2400 rpm at 55-60 mph which looks about like where I would be with 5.13 to 5.38 and the OD on. On the interstate I manually turn the OD on and off as needed. It's a little bit of trouble but for now it works. When I can afford it I'll do gears and lockers.

 

410's and heavy ass 35's on 18's (125lbs each combo)

I have no plans to regear at all....

and have no real performance mods... and and auto.

Would not waste money on a regear... its not NEEEDED like people claim.

 

See, its all subjective... I have 4.10's and auto, with 33's, lots of armor all around, and i hate the way it drives now... For me, regearing is the answer.. While some people dont care about perforemnce (or the life of the automatic transmission apperently), and say its a waste like the guy above... Do what you feel is right.

 

doesn't re-gearing take the extra strain off the transmission.. more so than leaving the stock gears to push 35's

 

well I would say thats slightly exaggerated... slightttllyyy hahaha

I am not saying its not different... I know its different... I am just saying for 2k+ that its going to cost (on long island)

It is not worth it...

and I am not a mech wizard but if you have "double the HP" throughout how is that not MORE strain on the Tranny ?

I cruise alll day at just under 2k rmps and max at like 3400 when pushing it... If she kicks down on me sometimes she rips up to like 4400 but I let off the gas and she drops down no problem... She shifts just as easy as always and when she does shift the rpms are much lower...

I dont see how it would cause more strain on the tranny... every time I have beefed up a whip to some serious power (doubling the stock hp) I have had to get a beefer tranny to deal with the stress of the motor... how is that not the case for the jeep?

again "They say ignorance is bliss." you are right...
someday soon I will drive someone's regeared and say shit this is pretty damn sweet... but to me... Its just not worth it because I don't find much of a difference at all to the stock truck with 410s... on 32's as with 410's and 35's
when I swapped my wheels I said to my self... what was everyone talking about... and if I am going to drop 2K on something that I am not convinced I need it better come with a girl that's installing it naked in my garage (that I don't actually have)...

 

it better come with a girl that's installing it naked in my garage (that I don't actually have)...
when she shows up.. you better call me! she can change my oil... like 10 times

 

You're right, not needed, more like m-a-n-d-a-t-o-r-y if you want the best performance out of your JK.

I live only 900 feet above sea level, yet the Rockies are but a few hours away and whether going up the hill west of Denver on the slab or rock crawling 12,000 up once I'm on the trail, I'd give up any mod I have done before I would give up my 4.88s. And I'm "only" running 33" tires.

Edit: if you simply use your Jeep for commuting, errand running and general transportation on paved roads, fine, you don't need gears (and for the record, I besmirch no one who wants to use their JK in that way).

 

Your prices are way off

regear is like 1200-1500 for parts here on long island :(
then your looking at 125$ a hour AT LEAST for an install
and thats before taxes and fluids and mark ups/fees on stuff that does not make any sense....

Cat back can be had for 200-300 and installed your self.
Headers are not worth it your 100% right
Cold air is not worth it (ALOT OF WATER HERE and I already hydrolocked on the stock setup) but 350-500 for a snorkel...

If I could do gears my self I might consider it, if I could buy them for 1k alone and do the install.

I am not saying your wrong about them being helpful at all, just saying I cant justify that money on them cus I have 410's and 35's and I dont see it as a problem...


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again your 100% right, and I agree... but I wouldnt do headers CIA or expensive exhaust either I would do stubby/winch/wheels tires/lift/half doors/ rear tire carrier/ skids /falshpack maybe instead....
depending on what I already had done

as for saving money 20-30k later down the line your right baout that too but I have no idea where I will be 2-3 years away from now... I might be giving her back off the lease (yes I am leased :()

Pulling off a bumper and selling it to another JK forum members is much easier then swapping gears back out

Plus if I do keep her after 2-3 years it might just be hemi time hahahaah


"and as for the non crawling and "" if you simply use your Jeep for commuting, errand running and general transportation on paved roads, fine, you don't need gears (and for the record, I besmirch no one who wants to use their JK in that way). "

I dont think anyone would consider RC to be a super crawling spot but its def got some sections to climb stuff... I see the trails as often as I can and I dont think gearing has ever come into my mind in 4 low ever... I am way more concerend about not having a high lift or not having a winch or not having a buddy to drag me out or not having a roll cage if I flop the whore....
Sure having some etra grunt is all good but 4:1rocktrack transfer case is all I need... I dont know if you guys have the rocktrack setups (not sure who has the rubi) but the difference in a 2.72:1 Low-Range and a 4:1 Low-Range is miles. there is much more difference in 4:1 low then throwing 4.88's on a 4:10 setup.

I just think if you dont have 4:10's its hard to say that oh its def 100% needed to do... but if you have 4:10's you can say with 100% certainty that you would understand how if you had less you would say that....

I mean over all it looks like we agree to disagree...

 

i have a unlimited rubi with an auto trans. i put a 3.5 RE lift and 34s on it. it drives very different then stock. It is very slow merging in compared to when it was stock. i live in southern MD and drive about 3 plus hours to go wheeling. i am on the fence to regear or not. right now i need a rear bumper with tire carrier before i kill the tail gate. around home the 4.10s are fine but i feel it as i start going to the mountains i see the RPMs go up and the gas go down.

 

Statistics:
Rubicon Unlimited
Auto
35"
5.13 gears

We regeared but it wasn't just for 35" tires we wanted something extra for towing a utility trailer we have and to give us room for growth to 37" tires at some point. There are a lot of variables when considering regearing and we've got a lot of friends with 35" tires that aren't regeared. The friends with manual trannys are able to control the downshifts for climbing and acceleration and those without take off the overdrive and it helps a bit.

As for us we love the results from the regearing, doesn't hunt and search for the right gear and the acceleration is great. That said it isn't a speed demon still has a mini van motor but you do see improvement. JMO