4" Lift
I would not do either kit. I like JKS but not the fixed arms and with 4" of lift I would want all 8 adjustable arms and a high steer solution. I understand you are locked into a kit offered by Quadratec. Thats too bad as there are other brands out there you are not getting to choose from. I would throw that catalog away after you burn your credit there. Better places out there and more choices then what they offer.
I would look at this:Synergy Manufacturing 4" Stage 3 Suspension for 07-17 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK | Quadratec and add the shocks of your choice.
I would look at this:Synergy Manufacturing 4" Stage 3 Suspension for 07-17 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK | Quadratec and add the shocks of your choice.
I agree on the CA's. I prefer adjustable arms also but OP was locked into Quadratec due to the mishap / credit. Since he is also a newbie to Jeeps, doesn't make sense to complicate matters by directing him to piece-mealing a kit. JKS comes with high steer, pre-set extended length beefy control arms to their 3" lift, comes with good mid-level Fox shocks and springs, is a good brand, you can still run the stock front driveshaft, and all for less than $2k. They even throw in their front discos.
It's pretty obvious JKS is pricing their kits very aggressively to tap market share since they were late to the game in offering suspension kits.
For mr redroller, I guess he prefers the whack Mopar 4" kit that comes with crap parts other than the Fox shocks, trackbar brackets, and probably the driveshaft. BUT no high steer kit, no trackbar, whack extended length stock control arms, AND THE KICKER is it comes in at $2364 ??!!?? You take away the drive shaft to get in < $2k territory, and it's absolute crap compared to the JKS.
The Synergy is nice but at $3120 that's a pretty decent chunk of change and you still have to add shocks. So that's another $400-$500 easy.
Out of all three kits (5 if you even include the Teraflex and AEV), the JKS at $1975 puts all the others to shame. Hell, with the extra credit he has he can easily add adjustable front and rear uppers since it sounds like he already bought the Adams shafts...
Not directed to anyone in particular but now I remember why I've been avoiding threads like these to try and help a newbie out.
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Last edited by DJ1; Feb 3, 2017 at 09:44 AM.
Not at all. So you can't explain the reasons why you consider dual rate springs to be a better option than linear?
Like I said, go educate yourself on the differences and you'll learn there are trade-offs for both and I just hope you guessed right when you decided dual rate coils are a better option. You're not fooling anyone with your obvious ignorance on the subject matter and playing your smart ass role instead is not fooling anyone. In the mean time I'll give you a clue. To gain the most benefit from a dual rate coil, the amount of weight that is loaded on them makes a big difference and seeing as though we all put different bumpers, winches, skid plates, etc,etc,etc weight loading on those springs, I'm expecting you selected the proper dual rate coil based on the amount of weight your Jeep has setup on top of that particular dual rate coil you decided is a better option.
Why don't you tell me more about how your looking at parts using pictures posted on the internet to judge their strength and determining if they're crap or not has been working out for you? It seems like a highly scientific thing you have going on there with that "look" strength tests you have going on there. I'm highly entertained is all.
Now you're just further proving your ignorance. Look at the JKS kit pic and the Mopar kit pic. See a component that looks the same which is used for high steer correction? I guess you didn't. Likely must not know what it looks like, without someone telling you that it's there.
Like I said, go educate yourself on the differences and you'll learn there are trade-offs for both and I just hope you guessed right when you decided dual rate coils are a better option. You're not fooling anyone with your obvious ignorance on the subject matter and playing your smart ass role instead is not fooling anyone. In the mean time I'll give you a clue. To gain the most benefit from a dual rate coil, the amount of weight that is loaded on them makes a big difference and seeing as though we all put different bumpers, winches, skid plates, etc,etc,etc weight loading on those springs, I'm expecting you selected the proper dual rate coil based on the amount of weight your Jeep has setup on top of that particular dual rate coil you decided is a better option.
Why don't you tell me more about how your looking at parts using pictures posted on the internet to judge their strength and determining if they're crap or not has been working out for you? It seems like a highly scientific thing you have going on there with that "look" strength tests you have going on there. I'm highly entertained is all.
Now you're just further proving your ignorance. Look at the JKS kit pic and the Mopar kit pic. See a component that looks the same which is used for high steer correction? I guess you didn't. Likely must not know what it looks like, without someone telling you that it's there.
Last edited by Rednroll; Feb 3, 2017 at 11:05 AM.
Easy fellas. No need to start a war. I'm just looking for advice in lifting my jeep. Everyone has their own opinion of what is good and what is not and I don't frown on any advice given. I appreciate all the knowledge from those that have already been there and done that.
You must likely get frustrated from others pointing out your ignorant statements and obviously biased opinions which are based upon no factual information after you throw the 1st stone.
Rears, i thought i heard they were stock length ? If thats the case, you can install a adjustable upper IF you get a driveshaft. If not leave it.
Easy fellas. No need to start a war. I'm just looking for advice in lifting my jeep. Everyone has their own opinion of what is good and what is not and I don't frown on any advice given. I appreciate all the knowledge from those that have already been there and done that.
Have him explain to you the reasons why a dual rate coil is a better must have option. It shouldn't be a problem for him, he's already mentioned it a couple times in this discussion. I'll just sit back, watch and enjoy the show as he stumbles over his own feet, if he actually makes an attempt to explain further. However, I have my doubts he'll make the attempt. He knows there's others here that will jump in and likely correct his incorrect/opinionated information.
Last edited by Rednroll; Feb 3, 2017 at 11:29 AM.
Funny we're comparing a dual and single rate coil. They are both kinda the same as far as ride characteristics, both ride on a single rate. Only difference is a dual rate coil has a dead zone that adds free length. This keeps the coil seated better in the perches.
I don't have to say shit cause kjeeper already provided the reason to go to a dual rate but hey, some people wanna spend $2300 on crap lol. Have fun mr. roller working on your rig after a spring decides to fall out upon flex lmfao. That's assuming you even ever disconnect the sway lol.
Interesting how AEV was the first to come out with upgraded springs while everyone was still single rate and others later started to follow suit.
$2300 and Mopar can't even add spring retainers to those single rate coils let alone legit control arms, trackbar, and a high steer kit. What a f*cking joke lol
Later. I'm heading out on vacay and got thangs to do. Try not to stress that brain too much roller lol
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Last edited by DJ1; Feb 3, 2017 at 11:55 AM.



