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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDirtman
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I don't get it.


The OP was looking at the Icon lift in the first post, Icon shocks not fox. The teraflex kit he was looking at had teraflex shocks. Not sure where the desire to run fox shocks is at?

Redroll sorry if you are taking the posts personal because you run it, not meant to be that way and glad you are happy with your kit.

Let me recap where the Fox shocks came into the discussion.

Originally Posted by DJ1
Here, you're gonna get a ton of different answers. Some people hate Bilstein shocks. They've been ok since I've run them but I prefer the beefiness of the FOX for a standard setup.
Originally Posted by Electech99
Great. I'm gonna go with this AEV kit. These geometry correction brackets aren't gonna cause me any problems if I don't change them right away? And I would definitely prefer Fox shocks too, that's what I run on my 3/4 ton. I appreciate the help and knowledge from everyone.
And let me recap where the offense started....


Originally Posted by DJ1
I agree on the CA's. I prefer adjustable arms also but OP was locked into Quadratec due to the mishap / credit. Since he is also a newbie to Jeeps, doesn't make sense to complicate matters by directing him to piece-mealing a kit. JKS comes with high steer, pre-set extended length beefy control arms to their 3" lift, comes with good mid-level Fox shocks and springs, is a good brand, you can still run the stock front driveshaft, and all for less than $2k. They even throw in their front discos.

It's pretty obvious JKS is pricing their kits very aggressively to tap market share since they were late to the game in offering suspension kits.


For mr redroller, I guess he prefers the whack Mopar 4" kit that comes with crap parts other than the Fox shocks, trackbar brackets, and probably the driveshaft. BUT no high steer kit, no trackbar, whack extended length stock control arms, AND THE KICKER is it comes in at $2364 ??!!?? You take away the drive shaft to get in < $2k territory, and it's absolute crap compared to the JKS.


The Synergy is nice but at $3120 that's a pretty decent chunk of change and you still have to add shocks. So that's another $400-$500 easy.


Out of all three kits (5 if you even include the Teraflex and AEV), the JKS at $1975 puts all the others to shame. Hell, with the extra credit he has he can easily add adjustable front and rear uppers since it sounds like he already bought the Adams shafts...


Not directed to anyone in particular but now I remember why I've been avoiding threads like these to try and help a newbie out.
but I'm apparently the bad guy for suggesting a kit which includes some nice Fox shocks, a high steer kit, and drive shaft, a steering stabilizer, falls into the 4in category, is available through Q-Tec which were all items the OP was looking at and dealing with, and it was one that I'm familiar with running, and in return got the insults thrown at me for doing it. OK?.....I guess, I'm the one not getting it.

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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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That last one is great!!!

After Whitney passed I remember this homeless guy came up to me and my chick at the grocery store mad about how they "wouldn't let the poor woman just rest". Had to inform him I didn't write the article. While also hinting that it's hard to sleep while stuffing stimulants in your sinuses.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sa29560
That last one is great!!!

After Whitney passed I remember this homeless guy came up to me and my chick at the grocery store mad about how they "wouldn't let the poor woman just rest". Had to inform him I didn't write the article. While also hinting that it's hard to sleep while stuffing stimulants in your sinuses.

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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Electech99
Or even a 3.5" kit
Still don't see why you need 4" of lift on a 2-door. You're best bet would have been to run that rig bone stock for a while to see what you really need. A rubicon is very capable right out of the box.

You said for ground clearance? I'm running 3 1/8" of measured lift on my 4 door with 35s without many troubles so long as I put my tires in the right spots.

What are you doing with your rig that you need more ground clearance? By the way, if you're running 35s with 2.5" of lift or 4" of lift, you've got very close to the same ground clearance since the axles will be the same height. You'll lift the frame, but in a 2-door this is rarely the problem (on a 4 door it is). Many times a 2-door with 2.5" and 35s will drive right through an obstacle that I drag my belly on.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 01:20 PM
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Mopar 4.5" lift comes with fox double chamber shocks, fox steering stabilizer, and front drive shaft, most complete kit I could find when doing my build. Plus you have a better chance of saving the power train warranty if you use Mopar components. Jeep will still try to deny a claim, but if you argue enough then they will pay, trust me, I work at a jeep dealership
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jedg
Still don't see why you need 4" of lift on a 2-door. You're best bet would have been to run that rig bone stock for a while to see what you really need. A rubicon is very capable right out of the box. You said for ground clearance? I'm running 3 1/8" of measured lift on my 4 door with 35s without many troubles so long as I put my tires in the right spots. What are you doing with your rig that you need more ground clearance? By the way, if you're running 35s with 2.5" of lift or 4" of lift, you've got very close to the same ground clearance since the axles will be the same height. You'll lift the frame, but in a 2-door this is rarely the problem (on a 4 door it is). Many times a 2-door with 2.5" and 35s will drive right through an obstacle that I drag my belly on.
I'm not arguing with you or telling you that you're wrong. I'm sure I don't need a lot of things that I have but I didn't necessarily do it because that's what I needed, I did it because that's what I wanted. I drive a Megacab Ram 2500 and I bought this to be a get around vehicle that's much easier to move around in traffic and parking and just easier all around. Sure I could've gotten a small truck or SUV or something else but I've wanted a lifted Jeep for as long as I can remember. I've read plenty of posts where people are getting trashed because they use their jeep as a mall crawler, well maybe they just like jeeps. I'm gonna use mine to hunt and mostly on the road so no doubt, I could've left it stock forever but that's not what I wanted. If I want to go off-road I have a RZR 1000 with 9" of Lift and 35.5" tractor tires that will go further than this jeep could ever imagine going.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wbradshaw6
trust me, I work at a jeep dealership

HaHa!
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wbradshaw6
Jeep will still try to deny a claim, but if you argue enough then they will pay, trust me, I work at a jeep dealership

Interesting. Perhaps your dealership can pass the memo along to the rest of the country? I found it amusing how one of my local dealerships wouldn't replace a sheared stock driveline bolt under warranty because I had trail rash on my TC and gas tank skids on a stock suspension.

On another note, apparently the 4" mopar only carries a 1 year warranty unlike their 2" kit. I previously gave points for the kits Fox shocks, included driveshaft, and trackbar brackets however it seems mopar can't even get their damn trackbar brackets right as many are still having issues with them and their crap design as more and more have replaced them with Evo, Synergy, etc.

So I guess for $2364 via Quadratec, you get a set of $880 reservoir shocks and a $350 front driveshaft. Then on top of that, spend another $300+ to swap out the crap trackbar brackets. Then on top of that, spend another $400+ to swap out the crap oem extended length lower control arms.


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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Electech99
I'm not arguing with you or telling you that you're wrong. I'm sure I don't need a lot of things that I have but I didn't necessarily do it because that's what I needed, I did it because that's what I wanted. I drive a Megacab Ram 2500 and I bought this to be a get around vehicle that's much easier to move around in traffic and parking and just easier all around. Sure I could've gotten a small truck or SUV or something else but I've wanted a lifted Jeep for as long as I can remember. I've read plenty of posts where people are getting trashed because they use their jeep as a mall crawler, well maybe they just like jeeps. I'm gonna use mine to hunt and mostly on the road so no doubt, I could've left it stock forever but that's not what I wanted. If I want to go off-road I have a RZR 1000 with 9" of Lift and 35.5" tractor tires that will go further than this jeep could ever imagine going.
Wow... okay. Not trying to offend you. But if all your looking for is a lifted jeep that's going to stay on the road, then pretty much ANY of the lifts will work so long as you deal with the problems you'll introduce to the steering geometry by going so tall on a 2-door.

Good luck with your build.
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