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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 05:25 AM
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The vibration is caused from the pinion angle. With a cv driveshaft the rear pinion needs to be pointed directly at the tcase. Driveshaft and pinion need to be a straight line.

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MBAR741028
What causes the vibration the angle and the upper control arms change the angle??
Think of it along the lines of gears meshing together. There's an optimum angle, and anything other than that angle will cause vibrations.

Here's a decent explanation with some images as well.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Thats what I thought thanks.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Would someone explain the pro's and con's of the 3 aftermarket driveshafts listed on page 1. I am going to do a Rubicon Express 3.5 short arm kit with 35 inch tires on a 2 door JK with a 6 speed and 4.10 gears. I guess I need to replace the driveshafts. My jeep will be a daily driver but I want to be able to depend on it to get me where I need to go... work, travel, aggressive off road, and home again.

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Old May 21, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TSmith0820
Would someone explain the pro's and con's of the 3 aftermarket driveshafts listed on page 1. I am going to do a Rubicon Express 3.5 short arm kit with 35 inch tires on a 2 door JK with a 6 speed and 4.10 gears. I guess I need to replace the driveshafts. My jeep will be a daily driver but I want to be able to depend on it to get me where I need to go... work, travel, aggressive off road, and home again.

thanks in advance ,
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The difference is mainly how heavy duty they are. Honestly, I think most people are keeping stock shafts until they have to be replaced. It looks like there are a lot of JK's with factory shafts out there been used pretty hard and they seem to be holding up. I'm planning on saving my money for now and upgrading when I start hearing about the factory shafts breaking.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
With a cv driveshaft the rear pinion needs to be pointed directly at the tcase. Driveshaft and pinion need to be a straight line.
Thats actually not true.....
The pinion should be 2 degrees below being pointed straight into the drive shaft, according to the site someone posted a link to earlier...

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/

As the name implies, a CV joint keeps the velocity of the drive shaft constant throughout a revolution. In a double cardan type constant velocity joint each joint in the CV assembley will speed up and slow down, just like on a regular drive shaft. The double cardan assembley has a centering mechanism that keeps the angle between the U-joints correct, allowing them to completely cancel out the speeding up and slowing down and spin the drive shaft at a constant speed.

In a perfect world the pinion could be pointed paralell with the drive shaft when using a CV joint so that all four caps on the lower U-joint will spin in the same circle to prevent the single lower U-joint from speeding up and slowing down as it rotates, which would cause a vibration. Unfortunatley, our world isn't perfect and the needle bearings inside a U-joint need to move to stay lubricated. The pinion angle must be 2 degrees below the drive shaft in to cause the needles to move and be lubricated.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Eracer76
Thats actually not true.....
The pinion should be 2 degrees below being pointed straight into the drive shaft, according to the site someone posted a link to earlier...

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
Look at the pics in the link you posted. it is a leaf spring vehicle. They have axle wrap. Coil sprung vehicles with contol arms like the Jeep do not have axle wrap like a coil sprung vehicle. The pinion should be directly aligned with the tcase.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKRUBI
The difference is mainly how heavy duty they are. Honestly, I think most people are keeping stock shafts until they have to be replaced. It looks like there are a lot of JK's with factory shafts out there been used pretty hard and they seem to be holding up. I'm planning on saving my money for now and upgrading when I start hearing about the factory shafts breaking.
They already are breaking. There have been posts on numerous sites that I have seen.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
They already are breaking. There have been posts on numerous sites that I have seen.
Please link. I want to see.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
They already are breaking. There have been posts on numerous sites that I have seen.
Ok,well, I just haven't seen anyone on here posting of them breaking and I know there are some hard drivers on this site.
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