Agreed

 

i sleeved and gussetted my d 30 and will be changing my gears.
im waisting about 1000 dollars but it is a temp solution untill I can get everything else done and then get a pr

 

Thanks for the education.

 

Hehehe.. And if it breaks you are not out that much $$$..

 

Which is the whole point of this thread. Build a weak 30, or move to a PR. ANY money into the 30 is wasted if he intends to upgrade. So is he better off dropping $1500 + into gears and a selectable -

You did notice the very first thing he said, right?
Guess not. He wants a selectable, not an auto-locker. So, big money into a 30, or use that money towards a PR?

Joisey summed it up:
So for the OP, how will the money be better spent. Dump it into a throw-away d30, or put it towards a PR?

 

It truly is amazing how people running a D44 or a D60... pooh, pooh the D30..
True there are stronger axles out there.. but seriously people have wheeled this axle for years with good success, Read the FAQ section for it's limitations though.
People are always willing to spend "your" money.. Or waste it..

 

The JK version is 5 inches wider and has taller C's. It is much more prone to bending. And then there is the suspect metallurgy in these JK axles. How many previous 30's or 44's have you seen shatter just from running up onto a curb?
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...on-please-help!!!!


For your reference to the faq's, read this one. You will notice it was started by the same person that wrote the faq's, and he has done a 180 in his opinion...
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...t-Axle-Housing!!



There really is a reason that so many of us are upgrading these stock axles...

 

^^^ So true!


Prior to the JK, I can't remember (in over 20 years of wheeling) of a similar failure in a Dana 30 front housing. All previous 30's have had their own issues but nothing as serious as the present JK 30.

 

Yes, I did read that.
Let me say it like this,
I hear what you are saying and I agree to, C gussett's should be done imo to the stock front axles.. 30 and 44 respectively. the 44's are bending as well, so i don't see why people talk like the D30 is that much worse then the stock D44, especially when you are running 33's...
Many people have run this axle D30 on here for a long time. So it really does work for some people. and as you know we are seeing 35's as the marginal setup at best.. although imo I wouldn't, and even a few are running 37's.. I know one personally and it's held up for a year now of moderate wheelin', but he is a well seasoned off road driver. That helps alot for sure.
My thought's we'll hear more breakage from D30's because there are more out there in service, then the D44 fronts.
The JK weight is heavier too, not a good thing for off roading, but you have a HPD30 which is stronger at the third member then the TJ's had, so I still think this axle is acceptable on 33's for most people on the trails.
I know you wouldn't spend a dime on the 30, but with 33's tires...? Too many people are using this set up with success. imo, you don't have to spend 5K on a new front axle to go wheel moderately with this set up. that's all I'm saying.


Totally agree about if you do upgrade the axle get the PR..

 

I have read many of your post and KNOW you say to not "waste" money on the 30 but YOU did not read his post. He said the 2.5 coil lift is on his wish list....dude, ain't got 6Gs to "waste" on a new front-end. And he CANNOT get gears and ARB for $1,500, the ARB/install alone will cost that. Gears are another $1K = $2.5K YOU missed the point of HIS thread. He wanted more capibility and YOUR point was to "upgrade" the whole da*n front-end.

Yes, he wanted a selectable but hey.... we are all not rich and can dump +$20K into a jeep. The guy wants to have fun and he should be able to without guys expecting someone to spend a fortune just to drive a GD jeep off-road. It is nice to have toys but enough of the elitist BULLSHIT.