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Superchips Flashpaq for JK, Initial Impressions

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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc_D
I think there is an algorithm involved. It probably depends on how much below the threshold you are and for how long. Also I know initially it takes a number of on/off cycles for the ECU to learn your TPMS codes. When I bought new wheels with new sensors it learned them automatically.

I can attest that I've had the TPMS light come on after I reflashed the setting to 30 psi with the superchips and my tires fell below that.

Also note that auto parts store and gas station tire pressure gauges are garbage. I have two of the exact same tire pressure gauges bought at the same store at the same time and they read 5 PSI different between them. You can buy highly accurate gauges from a road racing supply house but they are like $80.

With that kind of error margin you might be close to 34 PSI or possibly even above it in reality. If you can get your hands on a second gauge it'd be worth seeing if it agrees with the first gauge you used. That or set the pressure threshold to something high like 40 PSI and then drive for a few on/off cycles and see if it comes on.
Yeah, it took my JK a good 50 miles of driving (and a half-dozen starts over 12 hours) until the TMPS light came on after I switched wheels (to non-TPMS rims)

I've got a $20 digital gauge from Canadian Tire that seems to be fairly accurate.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc_D
I think there is an algorithm involved. It probably depends on how much below the threshold you are and for how long. Also I know initially it takes a number of on/off cycles for the ECU to learn your TPMS codes. When I bought new wheels with new sensors it learned them automatically.

I can attest that I've had the TPMS light come on after I reflashed the setting to 30 psi with the superchips and my tires fell below that.

Also note that auto parts store and gas station tire pressure gauges are garbage. I have two of the exact same tire pressure gauges bought at the same store at the same time and they read 5 PSI different between them. You can buy highly accurate gauges from a road racing supply house but they are like $80.

With that kind of error margin you might be close to 34 PSI or possibly even above it in reality. If you can get your hands on a second gauge it'd be worth seeing if it agrees with the first gauge you used. That or set the pressure threshold to something high like 40 PSI and then drive for a few on/off cycles and see if it comes on.
I certainly have quality tire pressure gauges and can check them accurately. These sensors are the factory original, they have not properly worked in about two months unless I go excessively low on tire pressure (13psi). There should be no fuss involved with tire pressure monitors, it's a pretty simple process. It recongnizes 'correct' pressure immediately, it should recongnize low pressure just as fast. The threshold should be 34psi as I set it, that is it. Not 34psi +/- 4-5psi, that is not what I'm looking for.

I removed the sensors today while at work, (BMW Dealership), so end of my TPMS worries..

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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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I'm sure it is a non-factor given these are all updateable via the net, but were there any 2nd or 3rd versions of this tuner from original and, is there a way to tell from sight? There are a couple available used that I am considering. Thanks!

Rob
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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I have one of the first ones out of the box for a JK and it works just as well as the one anyone else has.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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The tuner TPMS setting is for the actual pressure you are running not where you want the light to come on. The light will come on when the pressure drops below the +/- built-in setting which I believe it +/- 4psi. You can see this when you initially went into the TPMS adjust with the factory settings it queries the TPMS settings which started at 37psi. So if you set the tuner TPMS to 34 then when the pressure drops to 29 the light should come on because it is no longer within the threshold window.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 04:57 AM
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when I bought my wheels and tires I opted not to install TPMS. it beeps one time when I crank it up and the light just stays on, no a big deal to me.since I run 28PSI anyway. so If I still Had the sensors it would still be on.

I check the pressure weekly just to maintain Even tire wear.lol

I actually sold my stock wheels and tires with the sensors and I haven't looked back..

I cant see paying $300 for a programmer when I still need a stubby and winch

just my .002
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyingbrian
when I bought my wheels and tires I opted not to install TPMS. it beeps one time when I crank it up and the light just stays on, no a big deal to me.since I run 28PSI anyway. so If I still Had the sensors it would still be on.

I check the pressure weekly just to maintain Even tire wear.lol

I actually sold my stock wheels and tires with the sensors and I haven't looked back..

I cant see paying $300 for a programmer when I still need a stubby and winch

just my .002
2/1000th? You can set the pressure to whatever you want or shut off the TPMS completely. Anyway the TPMS was just an afterthought to me with the tuner. I bought the tuner so the speedometer would be correct with the new tire size and maybe eventual gear changes. Since I got it the difference in performance makes it well worth the purchase price.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Hardware wise there are no earlier versions. You might get one that has an earlier software version but like you mentioned it is updateable through the internet so the minute you update you are at the latest DB.

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Originally Posted by OnTheRoks
I'm sure it is a non-factor given these are all updateable via the net, but were there any 2nd or 3rd versions of this tuner from original and, is there a way to tell from sight? There are a couple available used that I am considering. Thanks!

Rob
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbellyfoo
Got the superchips fp last week, easy update and install. Running the Economy Mileage XS Save, still running on the first tank, but mileage appears to be better. Normally get about 240-50 miles before the lights goes on. We'll see how the next tank goes. Also, it might just be some sort of placebo affect, but the JK seems to respond better even on this economy tune. I want to run a couple tanks first before switching to the 87 Octane. That's what I'm really interested in seeing. I'll report back in a few.
First full tank emptied last week. Gas light came on at 280 miles! Wife swears the light usually turns on at 230. We obviously need to drive more to get a better idea of the mileage, but so far so good. The Jeep is my wife's DD and she has a 4 mile commute to work. The jeep on average, is probably driven 30% highway and the rest normal city driving. Stay tuned for more updates.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott@Superchips
Hardware wise there are no earlier versions. You might get one that has an earlier software version but like you mentioned it is updateable through the internet so the minute you update you are at the latest DB.

Scott
Scott, what makes the towing tune different than the 87/91/93 tune?
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