What would you like in a snorkel design?
JK Enthusiast
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From: Austin, TX
Sorry guys... still here and just got a plate full of stuff to be getting done before SEMA... This includes ripping apart my new 2012 Rubicon to confirm fitment of most if not all of our current products... I am sorry that I have not been posting up as much as I have in the past. I had to hand the forum responsibility over to one of our Tech guys... Sooooo I just have not been around.
Snorkel is still going along and will be ready soon. We had some really big molded parts that have required fine tuning to get production ready. I have some under hood images I will post up tomorrow to let you guys know how it is mounted. I will also be pulling my 2012 apart to see what will need to be changed for the new model. Looks like most if not all of the expensive tooling will be reused and I will just need to work around the new exhaust for the 3.6L Penastar.
Snorkel is still going along and will be ready soon. We had some really big molded parts that have required fine tuning to get production ready. I have some under hood images I will post up tomorrow to let you guys know how it is mounted. I will also be pulling my 2012 apart to see what will need to be changed for the new model. Looks like most if not all of the expensive tooling will be reused and I will just need to work around the new exhaust for the 3.6L Penastar.
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OK... working with my mold vendor and we are having to rework a few parts to allow them to be removed from the molds with less effort (very important for large scale production). These are the small things you just cannot take account for until you are this close to production.
Here are a few images of the early prototype installed onto our 2011 JK (so please excuse the quality of the image and the rapid prototype part). As you can see the main body of the intake is mounted inside the front fender. This requires the removal of the front fender, but the flare can come off with the fender (at the same time). The side cowl will need to be removed (spot welds drilled out) and a section of the front fender will need to be removed. From there it is rather simple. The lower section of the air box is replaced and an aluminum air tube is routed between the engine and the shock tower. The stock air filter and intake tube to the engine are retained.
Here are a few images of the early prototype installed onto our 2011 JK (so please excuse the quality of the image and the rapid prototype part). As you can see the main body of the intake is mounted inside the front fender. This requires the removal of the front fender, but the flare can come off with the fender (at the same time). The side cowl will need to be removed (spot welds drilled out) and a section of the front fender will need to be removed. From there it is rather simple. The lower section of the air box is replaced and an aluminum air tube is routed between the engine and the shock tower. The stock air filter and intake tube to the engine are retained.
JK Super Freak
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Hmmm.... I like the concept....I am a little concerned with that much of the snorkel assembly sitting fairly low. A lot of water crossings are at about that level so if there was small crack or the seal wasnt perfect you would have water coming in.
if it was routed higher than you would be narrowing your chances of having water come in.
Just thinking out loud here. I am by no means an engineer
if it was routed higher than you would be narrowing your chances of having water come in.
Just thinking out loud here. I am by no means an engineer
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As you can see the main body of the intake is mounted inside the front fender. This requires the removal of the front fender, but the flare can come off with the fender (at the same time). The side cowl will need to be removed (spot welds drilled out) and a section of the front fender will need to be removed. From there it is rather simple. The lower section of the air box is replaced and an aluminum air tube is routed between the engine and the shock tower. .
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I was looking at this the other day and was thinking about it....when you take off your "painted" bolts to take the fender off, how much paint chipping occured on your door? These bolts are completely painted over so I'm interested as to how is the best method to do so without trashing the look of the paint.
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Former Vendor
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Hmmm.... I like the concept....I am a little concerned with that much of the snorkel assembly sitting fairly low. A lot of water crossings are at about that level so if there was small crack or the seal wasnt perfect you would have water coming in.
if it was routed higher than you would be narrowing your chances of having water come in.
Just thinking out loud here. I am by no means an engineer
if it was routed higher than you would be narrowing your chances of having water come in.
Just thinking out loud here. I am by no means an engineer
Nope... your question is a good one and we spent a good amount of time making sure this is not an issue. The deep section of the fender intake has been designed to trap water if taken in from the intake. This will be able to be drained if needed. The intake from this body is raised and runs at a slope up to the air box... this will also allow drain back if needed. Keep in mind that you should never be in the water that deep for very long (In and out) otherwise you are going to have a LOT of issues. Sorry to say that we cannot fix stupid...
. By that I mean we can only account for issue that happens when your vehicle is used incorrectly. All connection points will have high quality straps and high temp silicone elbows. We will also instruct where to add sealant during the installation.
Now I got to get back to work....
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Nope... your question is a good one and we spent a good amount of time making sure this is not an issue. The deep section of the fender intake has been designed to trap water if taken in from the intake. This will be able to be drained if needed. The intake from this body is raised and runs at a slope up to the air box... this will also allow drain back if needed. Keep in mind that you should never be in the water that deep for very long (In and out) otherwise you are going to have a LOT of issues. Sorry to say that we cannot fix stupid... . By that I mean we can only account for issue that happens when your vehicle is used incorrectly.
All connection points will have high quality straps and high temp silicone elbows. We will also instruct where to add sealant during the installation.
Now I got to get back to work....
. By that I mean we can only account for issue that happens when your vehicle is used incorrectly. All connection points will have high quality straps and high temp silicone elbows. We will also instruct where to add sealant during the installation.
Now I got to get back to work....
Sounds good and looks good.......do you guys have an anticipated release date and cost?
JK Enthusiast
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Looks nice. Have you guys done any testing to see what the intake temps are with the snorkel and with stock? I've monitored my stock temps on an obd monitor and at highway speeds it is about 5-10 degrees above ambient. Idling though it jumps way up to 140-150 degrees. Just wondering if the aluminum pipe close to the exhaust manifold will negate the cold air intake idea. Even if it does I like the setup more than others and will be installing it on my JKU for the extra security for water crossings.
