What would you like in a snorkel design?
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From: Suwanee, GA
Looks nice. Have you guys done any testing to see what the intake temps are with the snorkel and with stock? I've monitored my stock temps on an obd monitor and at highway speeds it is about 5-10 degrees above ambient. Idling though it jumps way up to 140-150 degrees. Just wondering if the aluminum pipe close to the exhaust manifold will negate the cold air intake idea. Even if it does I like the setup more than others and will be installing it on my JKU for the extra security for water crossings.
Please be aware that from DAY ONE we have tried to set the expectation regarding a snorkel and cold air intake systems. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME and should not be viewed that way regardless of the manufacture. Is it possible the air temp will be lower, maybe? Would it improve performance, in water crossing "yes"... My point is that we are not listing this as a cold air intake system so these numbers are not our driving force in designing it.
I can say that on a recent trip to Daytona (in 94+ high humidity temps) the pipe running next to the exhaust never tapped out over 100 degrees sitting idling. The exhaust flange (about 1" away) was pegged over 650+... I would like to think the heat shield is doing its job.
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I'm sure that if you wanted to you could wrap a heat shielding around the intake pipes. I had some stick on insolation for my RX-7 that I put on the body where the downpipe got close. I did that after I wraped the exhaust pipes in heat shielding. made a big differance. I'm a little concerned about the pipe that 'wraps' around the inner finder. that seems like a potintial week spot to me. maybe it's a lot more secure than it looks. I like the desing though. 
when can I buy??????
when can I buy??????
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OK... working with my mold vendor and we are having to rework a few parts to allow them to be removed from the molds with less effort (very important for large scale production). These are the small things you just cannot take account for until you are this close to production.
Here are a few images of the early prototype installed onto our 2011 JK (so please excuse the quality of the image and the rapid prototype part). As you can see the main body of the intake is mounted inside the front fender. This requires the removal of the front fender, but the flare can come off with the fender (at the same time). The side cowl will need to be removed (spot welds drilled out) and a section of the front fender will need to be removed. From there it is rather simple. The lower section of the air box is replaced and an aluminum air tube is routed between the engine and the shock tower. The stock air filter and intake tube to the engine are retained.
Here are a few images of the early prototype installed onto our 2011 JK (so please excuse the quality of the image and the rapid prototype part). As you can see the main body of the intake is mounted inside the front fender. This requires the removal of the front fender, but the flare can come off with the fender (at the same time). The side cowl will need to be removed (spot welds drilled out) and a section of the front fender will need to be removed. From there it is rather simple. The lower section of the air box is replaced and an aluminum air tube is routed between the engine and the shock tower. The stock air filter and intake tube to the engine are retained.
what a disappointment... 
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From: Suwanee, GA
So, I understand what the process is, how hard is this for an average joe to do? Do you have to put it on jacks to route the tubing from underneath? I like the idea, I am not so sure, I could do the work. Maybe a you tube vid, when it is ready would help. At this stage of the install, would this be a good time to extend the breather tubes? Are you able to get to them more readily with the fender off? If I remember, there is a kit out there that ties all the breathers to the air box. Be good if they could be done at the same time.
Extending the lines at this time would be a good idea. I have explained earlier in the thread why we are not attaching it to the snorkel. With the fender off it just gives you a hiding place to route the tubes up to the cowl area if desired.
As for a video, yes we will be putting one together for this and most of all our future products.
Now for the other comments......
.. getting to the point that I just have to stop commenting. You guys are getting me down. Not sure what people expected 
. Not sure how you guys thought this thing would magically get installed on the vehicle? .... Deep breath, OK... I understand that some will not feel comfortable doing the installation but for most of you guys it really is not that bad. We have tried to make it as easy as possible.
I will have to let another company make the 3M stick on version...
Well we could just take the plastic cowl armor we make... extend it a bit to match the tall ram intake and make a very easy to install a fake stick on version. All the look with no real work.
Last edited by Rugged_Ridge; Aug 26, 2011 at 10:49 AM.
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Originally Posted by Rugged_Ridge
Please be aware that from DAY ONE we have tried to set the expectation regarding a snorkel and cold air intake systems. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME and should not be viewed that way regardless of the manufacture. Is it possible the air temp will be lower, maybe? Would it improve performance, in water crossing "yes"... My point is that we are not listing this as a cold air intake system so these numbers are not our driving force in designing it.
I can say that on a recent trip to Daytona (in 94+ high humidity temps) the pipe running next to the exhaust never tapped out over 100 degrees sitting idling. The exhaust flange (about 1" away) was pegged over 650+... I would like to think the heat shield is doing its job.
