Random No Crank Club
Battery checked out fine....
The random crank has gotten worse with the engine starting only half the time, and sometimes taking up to 30 min to crank!
This may be actually good
I also now have a "throttle control light" in the dash:

What I do know is that this problem IS NOT:
-The starter/ solenoid
-Starter Relay
-Battery
-ACC/ Run Relay
-A ground / amp drop to the starter
What's left: (that I can think of)
-New Power Control Module/ reprogram
-Mechanical binding in tranny/ engine
-Tranny shifter sensor (behind valve body in tranny)
-Ignition control issue in the steering column
The dealer can take it from here. I'm spent.
If I'm missing something easy to check please let me know!
I'll post the dealer's findings
The random crank has gotten worse with the engine starting only half the time, and sometimes taking up to 30 min to crank!
This may be actually good

I also now have a "throttle control light" in the dash:
What I do know is that this problem IS NOT:
-The starter/ solenoid
-Starter Relay
-Battery
-ACC/ Run Relay
-A ground / amp drop to the starter
What's left: (that I can think of)
-New Power Control Module/ reprogram
-Mechanical binding in tranny/ engine
-Tranny shifter sensor (behind valve body in tranny)
-Ignition control issue in the steering column
The dealer can take it from here. I'm spent.
If I'm missing something easy to check please let me know!
I'll post the dealer's findings
I just got back from a long road trip and the next morning (yesterday) in the driveway the Jeep was dead. Nothing. I ended up pulling the battery and getting a Optima yellowtop. Yesterday it ran fine but I still don't trust it to start yet.
I'd be happy to pay the dough to fix this rediculous problem!
Of all things I want my jeep to do -- it's START when I turn the key
My dealer spent two days troubleshooting and could not narrow it to one specific component. They want me to drive it another week or so and verify the shifter has an effect on the no-crank issue. I plan to tally & compare the number of times I initially start in neutral with crank; and the number of times it initially cranks in park. Second crank attempts won't be counted since it may start with/ without shifting & I wouldn't know the difference.
If the numbers are close: new TIPM ($400)
If I definately get more initial cranks in neutral: new shift sensor ($50 plus 4 hrs labor)
If the numbers are close: new TIPM ($400)
If I definately get more initial cranks in neutral: new shift sensor ($50 plus 4 hrs labor)
Last edited by meatsandwich; May 27, 2010 at 06:54 PM.
Mine is a plain jane X package (S) with no power options. No alarm. Wondering if we could find a common trait amongst our problems. Also my dash lit up just as yours did.


