snow chains
Maybe that is the ultimate solution. Throw a set of chains in your vehicle, whether they fit or not, to comply with the law. Then never use them. What I am most concerned with is the stock tires are all purpose and probably do not perform well in snow. I thought of purchasing a set of snow tires, but that money would be better spent on a lift and a set of 35's. I am not so concerned about acceleration as I am about stopping. Like someone else posted, when you hit ice, 4WD goes to no WD in a hurry. I am just trying to be safe.
I often go to Cascades mountains for backcountry skiing/snowshoeing etc. during the winter, but I've never used chains on the pavement.
That said, I usually carry chains just in case. I like GoCraws (flextrax "dot" com) because it's very easy to put them on (even when the tires are covered in mud/snow). It doesn't look like they provide much traction, but they actually work... as good as chains or cables. When I went to climb Mt. Langley in High Sierra in late fall/early winter a couple of years ago, I got stuck on the NF service road with mix of snow and mud (underneath). I was able to recover without much hustle thanks to this thing.
That said, I usually carry chains just in case. I like GoCraws (flextrax "dot" com) because it's very easy to put them on (even when the tires are covered in mud/snow). It doesn't look like they provide much traction, but they actually work... as good as chains or cables. When I went to climb Mt. Langley in High Sierra in late fall/early winter a couple of years ago, I got stuck on the NF service road with mix of snow and mud (underneath). I was able to recover without much hustle thanks to this thing.
I was really hoping to find a set of chains/cables that I can use without worrying about. I am hoping to be moving next summer, and the city I hope to move to is all on a hill, and gets a lot of ice storms. I think I'm just going to have to see what will fit after I choose my lift and wheel/tire combo.......
Maybe that is the ultimate solution. Throw a set of chains in your vehicle, whether they fit or not, to comply with the law. Then never use them. What I am most concerned with is the stock tires are all purpose and probably do not perform well in snow. I thought of purchasing a set of snow tires, but that money would be better spent on a lift and a set of 35's. I am not so concerned about acceleration as I am about stopping. Like someone else posted, when you hit ice, 4WD goes to no WD in a hurry. I am just trying to be safe.
Any of the backcountry ski places are very isolated, and you usually don't see anyone (especially during the weekdays). So, make sure to let someone know where you are going and bring "10 essentials".
Well, when you come visit Seattle next time, let me know.
Sorry for the hi-jack.
Last edited by moun10eer; Dec 5, 2007 at 10:17 PM.
OK, after all the yaddayadda I got curious and tried to put my chains on.
To make the long story short:
- The Konig chains I have are self adjusting and self tightening
- Yes, as soon as you put them on there is not much space between them and the suspension arm
- After driving SLOWLY for 10 meters ('bout 30 feet) they tightened themself up A LOT
- At this point clearance to suspension arm was about 4 cm ( 'bout 1.5 inches)
I and my tire-vendor are certain that this clearance is safe.
Get the König T2 MAGIC and you are OK.
To make the long story short:
- The Konig chains I have are self adjusting and self tightening
- Yes, as soon as you put them on there is not much space between them and the suspension arm
- After driving SLOWLY for 10 meters ('bout 30 feet) they tightened themself up A LOT
- At this point clearance to suspension arm was about 4 cm ( 'bout 1.5 inches)
I and my tire-vendor are certain that this clearance is safe.
Get the König T2 MAGIC and you are OK.
Randonnee skiing. There are many places for backcountry skiing around here. The closest places from downtown Seattle - Bellevue are Silver Peak, Kendall Peak, Mt. Catherine and Mt. Margaret. They are all located along Snoqualmie Pass (I-90) and about 1~1.5 hr. from Seattle. Next time when you are in Seattle, go to REI and check out these books: "Backcountry Skiing Snoqualmie Pass". "100 Classic Backcountry Ski & Snowboard Routes in Washington" and "Backcountry Ski! Washington".
Any of the backcountry ski places are very isolated, and you usually don't see anyone (especially during the weekdays). So, make sure to let someone know where you are going and bring "10 essentials".
Well, when you come visit Seattle next time, let me know.
Sorry for the hi-jack.
Any of the backcountry ski places are very isolated, and you usually don't see anyone (especially during the weekdays). So, make sure to let someone know where you are going and bring "10 essentials".
Well, when you come visit Seattle next time, let me know.
Sorry for the hi-jack.
OK, after all the yaddayadda I got curious and tried to put my chains on.
To make the long story short:
- The Konig chains I have are self adjusting and self tightening
- Yes, as soon as you put them on there is not much space between them and the suspension arm
- After driving SLOWLY for 10 meters ('bout 30 feet) they tightened themself up A LOT
- At this point clearance to suspension arm was about 4 cm ( 'bout 1.5 inches)
I and my tire-vendor are certain that this clearance is safe.
Get the König T2 MAGIC and you are OK.
To make the long story short:
- The Konig chains I have are self adjusting and self tightening
- Yes, as soon as you put them on there is not much space between them and the suspension arm
- After driving SLOWLY for 10 meters ('bout 30 feet) they tightened themself up A LOT
- At this point clearance to suspension arm was about 4 cm ( 'bout 1.5 inches)
I and my tire-vendor are certain that this clearance is safe.
Get the König T2 MAGIC and you are OK.

Thanks Voodoo, I sent them an email to find out if they have tested their chains on the JK yet. I wonder if their new 7mm K7 will be a better choice.
http://www.konig.it/gpage.aspx?ID=813
You can select English language on this website
http://www.konig.it/gpage.aspx?ID=813
You can select English language on this website
Thanks Voodoo, I sent them an email to find out if they have tested their chains on the JK yet. I wonder if their new 7mm K7 will be a better choice.
http://www.konig.it/gpage.aspx?ID=813
You can select English language on this website
http://www.konig.it/gpage.aspx?ID=813
You can select English language on this website
But: Keep in mind that your Jeep is pretty heavy and 3 mm less may be just too week, plus the square chain of the T2 will give you a better grip on ice than the round K7.
Besides, from what we've seen there's plenty of room with the 10mm.
I may consider the "K SUV", but i guess it's overkill.
Just my 2 cents...
Voodoo, do you have the part number for your König T2 Magic snow chains?
König don't currently list a model for the 255/70R18 tires I have on my Sahara. I am going to try and find a supplier in Switzerland but I'm going to need a part number if I have to order them.
Are they supplied as a pair for one axle or are they sold individually?
König don't currently list a model for the 255/70R18 tires I have on my Sahara. I am going to try and find a supplier in Switzerland but I'm going to need a part number if I have to order them.
Are they supplied as a pair for one axle or are they sold individually?


