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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Vince
Voodoo, do you have the part number for your König T2 Magic snow chains?

König don't currently list a model for the 255/70R18 tires I have on my Sahara. I am going to try and find a supplier in Switzerland but I'm going to need a part number if I have to order them.

Are they supplied as a pair for one axle or are they sold individually?

I'll have a look at the box for the part number at lunch time.
They are sold in pairs.

Edit:
Here's the picture of the label attached to the chains.
This is the only reference I have. They are a tight fit but still easy to put on.


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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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Thanks. Just what I needed.

I think the German phrase at the bottom translated is "Take notice of information from the vehicle manufacturer!" although I'm not certain.

I have 255/70R18 tires, so I am going to take a gamble that they will fit.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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I just received confirmation from Thule about the König T2 Magic - Type 267 snow chains for 18" Sahara wheels and tires.


Dear Sir,

thanks for having contacted us.
Yes, your T2 Magic 267 is ok also for your new Jeep with 18" rims.

Best Regards

Nicoletta Galleani
Marketing Manager

THULE S.p.A.
Viale Lombardia, 8
IT-23847 Molteno

Phone: +39 031 85 44 555
Phone direct: +39 031 85 44 418
Fax: +39 031 85 44 500
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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Happy to read this! At least I have official confirmation what I thought!
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Good habit when using chains is to place at least one bungee strap/tire to ensure the chains stays tight & snug on the tire while you drive.

I usually place 2 bungee's when I am out in the bush and it's solid ice to get to a logging show. I have seen guys place the chains on their vehicle without a bungee and seen the chains make a mess of the plastic wheel well or worse slap against the outside fender chipping away at the paint because of the slack the chain has on the tire.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleJeep_99
Good habit when using chains is to place at least one bungee strap/tire to ensure the chains stays tight & snug on the tire while you drive.
That's the nice feature about the König T2 Magic, not only does it fit in the limited amount of space compared to conventional chains, it tightens itself on the tire and stays tight.

Not so nice is the cost, but with the limited clearance available due to the vehicle not having been designed for use in snow, there really isn't much else you can do if you are unable to modify the Jeep.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince
That's the nice feature about the König T2 Magic, not only does it fit in the limited amount of space compared to conventional chains, it tightens itself on the tire and stays tight.

Not so nice is the cost, but with the limited clearance available due to the vehicle not having been designed for use in snow, there really isn't much else you can do if you are unable to modify the Jeep.
I would hope your comment is sarcasm… Jeep JK's are designed for use in snow.

Fyi: don’t bother posting a rebuttal if your comment was not sarcasm… if I wanted to hear an idiot spout off I would just turn to msnbc
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tazznc13
I would hope your comment is sarcasm… Jeep JK's are designed for use in snow.

Fyi: don’t bother posting a rebuttal if your comment was not sarcasm… if I wanted to hear an idiot spout off I would just turn to msnbc

I think it's sarcastic....

You have to admit that the owner's manual stating you cannot fit chains on a Rubi makes you think

I don't know rule in the US, but in Europe we have to carry chains in case of snow and to put them on if traffic authority says so (only if you got *specific* snow tires, not M+S, you may do without chains). I have no doubt a Wrangler hardly ever needs them, but still: There are situations where even a Tractor needs chains.

If my manual stated "Snow chains cannot be fitted to this vehicle" I would be pretty disappointed!

I can understand this for cars, for them winter tires are enough 99% of the time. But when I have to climb up the mountains in heavy snow and ice when I'm hunting, I feel much more comfortable being able to fit chains, even in a "just in case" thinking.

Moreover I think the statement in the user's manual is dictated by lawyers due to the fact that in the US any a..h..e can sue you for his own stupidity: My Remington Owner's manual says "Your rifle may fire when you pull the trigger" Smith and Wesson revolvers nowadays come with a stupid key to DISABLE them !!! and my Rubi's manual is so filled up with warnings that you get the feeling you're riding on a disaster waiting to happen



These things feel strange to us in Europe because we are not used to all those warnings and safety knickknacks. Over here if you read "Chains of xyz millimeters or less may be fitted due to limited clearance" you go out and shop for the right thing or even have it custom made. I guess this is why they don't say anything in the Italian booklet...

They leave it to common sense, 'cause over here, if you screw up , you cannot go to court and start claiming the factory did not tell you to do this and not do that. You'll have to proof that YOU did EVERYTHING a normal, medium intelligent, human being can do to avoid damage...
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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I agree with you, while it has been suggested that there is limited sidewall to frame clearance… the no chains warning appears to be jeep's way of saying if you lose you quarter panel or fender due to chains braking, we are not gonna be responsible
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tazznc13
I would hope your comment is sarcasm… Jeep JK's are designed for use in snow.

Fyi: don’t bother posting a rebuttal if your comment was not sarcasm… if I wanted to hear an idiot spout off I would just turn to msnbc
I have been offline for a week due to a house move but Voodoo has replied adequately for me.

I found it interesting to discover that König are OEM snow chain manufacturers for many of the world's auto makers, including Mercedes. It's a pity that during the design phase of the JK, Daimler Chrysler decided that only the models with 16" wheels would carry their endorsement for using 'S' class snow chains.
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