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Expedition Modded Jeeps - Let's see 'em!!

Old Dec 29, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Doiron
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Thanks! Wow, that is legit. I've never really seen the point of having something past a sun shower gravity bag (don't know the actual name, but you know what I'm talking about no doubt).

Another option that people often forget is you can pull into a KOA and use coin operated showers. It's been a long time since I've done that, but we definitely have before.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dlampe
I don't think a truck could go down the trails I have been on. It's just too tight and the truck can't manuver as a Jeep can.
I'm not talking about full size. My son's Mitsubishi truck has a much tighter turning radius than my JKU has.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Is it a 4 door? Because my boys are both over 6 ft and need a place to sit. Does it have the ground clearance my JK has? I don't believe it is anywhere near as capable as our Jeeps and if it was, would you want to live out of it for a week in rain, snow or what ever?

Do people say "man, that's a cool Mitsubishi truck you have there!" I don't think so. Besides, part of the journey is doing it in style with really cool gear.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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People are going to drive what they want to drive. Trucks are fantastic overland vehicles. If you don't believe it, then just look anywhere outside the US. Jeeps, Rovers, Toyota, Nissan or Mitsubishi.....who gives a crap. We all pick our vehicles because they either work for what we want to do, or they are all we can afford, so we adapt to the vehicle. I've seen some insanely cool Mitsubishi trucks kitted out for travel.

Mark was pretty much on target with everything in that post (at least for the type of travel I do). I'm with Mark on the tire size too. 33's are great, so are 35's. I personally wouldn't go any bigger than 35. It gets to be harder to find replacements for really long overlanding trips, especially if you are heading to Mexico or South America. Which is another good reason to go with AT's over MT's. If I tear a sidewall, I've got no problem buying an unmatching replacement as long as the size is the same to finish off the trip and AT's are easier to find.

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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Extremehabit
... Another option that people often forget is you can pull into a KOA and use coin operated showers. It's been a long time since I've done that, but we definitely have before.
I've camped at a lot of KOAs for that reason--don't remember coin-operated showers, but you may be able to arrange something at the office for just a shower. Truck stops have coin-operated showers, though. And, many state parks that have overnight camping also offer showers. National parks are rather iffy, but state parks are a bit more consistent. When national parks have them, they are usually coin-operated.
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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GJeep
... If all we want or need for expeditions is 33"s and 2" lift, why a Jeep? ...
Because we love them. As has also been pointed out, there are fans of other vehicles as well--look at some of my pictures and you'll see an xTerra and Land Rover Defender D90. I'm preparing to go on a trip with a Grand Cherokee (okay, we could argue whether or not that's a Jeep). And while I've never gone with anyone with a Toyota Tundra or a motorcycle, both are popular vehicles for overland/expedition travel--just open up an issue of Overland Journal and see what they drive and where they take them. But I do agree that the Jeep does offer more capability on the really rocky stuff--primarily because of the solid front axle. And if one wants to get out there and rock crawl when not overlanding, a Jeep is a more capable vehicle.
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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dlampe
Is it a 4 door? Because my boys are both over 6 ft and need a place to sit. Does it have the ground clearance my JK has? I don't believe it is anywhere near as capable as our Jeeps and if it was, would you want to live out of it for a week in rain, snow or what ever?
Search Google for offroading and camping videos in Australia, where Jeeps aren't as widespread as in the US.
See for yourself what 4x4s they use, and the offroad capabilities of their vehicles, even with trailers - which are very common there.
And yes, one can live out of an 'expedition modded' pickup for a week, as comfortably as out of a Jeep.

As for ground clearance, I referred to the sentence - "Tires should be 33s or so .... Lift should be no higher than needed to accommodate the (33") tires".
This means 0"~2" lift. This kind of ground clearance is no problem to get in a pickup without expensive customizing.
Do people say "man, that's a cool Mitsubishi truck you have there!" I don't think so. Besides, part of the journey is doing it in style with really cool gear.
I said -- "We prefer a Jeep because of its offroad capability and unique charm".
However -- yes, a pickup can be modded for style, cool gear and the 'Wow' effect.

Having said that, I have a Jeep and not a pickup...
First of all, nothing compares to the Jeeps' attractiveness.
Secondly, once upgraded -- and without going completely custom -- nothing compares to the Jeeps' offroad capabilities.
Thirdly, nothing has the "LEGO" modularity and wealth of aftermarket options that the Jeep has.
There're so many suspension options that I had to study the issue before making a decision.
If/when I decide, for instance, to change to EVO bolt-on coilovers, it's a simple bolt-on. No such versatility for pickups.

I can't feel attached to a pickup, like I am to the Jeep.

This doesn't mean that I shouldn't recognize a well modded pickup as very suitable for expedition type trips. It can be as good (or even better in some aspects), than a 33" wheeled Jeep with 0" to 2" lift.
Offroad, a 35" and 4" lift Jeep is another story. You need something like the Raptor to compete with that (on some kinds of terrain, not all), and it has one big drawback -- it's not a Jeep...

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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by H00LIGAN
People are going to drive what they want to drive. Trucks are fantastic overland vehicles. If you don't believe it, then just look anywhere outside the US. Jeeps, Rovers, Toyota, Nissan or Mitsubishi.....who gives a crap. We all pick our vehicles because they either work for what we want to do, or they are all we can afford, so we adapt to the vehicle. I've seen some insanely cool Mitsubishi trucks kitted out for travel.

Mark was pretty much on target with everything in that post (at least for the type of travel I do). I'm with Mark on the tire size too. 33's are great, so are 35's. I personally wouldn't go any bigger than 35. It gets to be harder to find replacements for really long overlanding trips, especially if you are heading to Mexico or South America. Which is another good reason to go with AT's over MT's. If I tear a sidewall, I've got no problem buying an unmatching replacement as long as the size is the same to finish off the trip and AT's are easier to find.
I agree with every word.

As a side note and in reply to Dlampe -

I like cars... and have driven SUVs and pickups, some of which are pretty good, test driven a Corvette, a large Lexus... nothing was "that's it" like in a Jeep.
I didn't mod my Jeep to draw attention. I prefer an understated look, but can't hide the steel bumpers, the 4" lift, the 35"s, or the Shrockworks rock sliders I'm waiting for...
Other than that, it's all-white stock. Still, it draws attention that I'm not looking for, from drivers next to me, who look at the Jeep and make a , to a lady in a Prius who looks apprehensively at the 35"AT in the middle of the parallel lane, which seems threatening to her...

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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 04:42 AM
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Just out of curiosity, and for the the fun of it, here's an example for how can a pickup be fitted for expedition-style trips:

Turtle Expedition » The Turtle V

The wheels, BTW, are 41"... 7.3 Liter V8 diesel...
Check the rest of the details... It resembles a yacht interior - compact and comfy.

Can you live out of this one any less than out of a Jeep? No way...

Would I even consider replacing my Jeep with this, or anything else? NO way.

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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 05:54 AM
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GJeep, my apologize. I reread my post and it did sound very combative. That was not my intent. I have not had experience with the trucks other than what I have seen around here. You are right. Those trucks are very capable as are the motorcyles and many other vehicles. I still prefer my JK over all others. I could have answered your question with a nicer tone.
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