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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Anyone else notice that the gear ratios are reduced?

Sport went from 3:73 to 3:21
Rubi went from 4:10 to 3:73

Why would they do that??? so stupid!!!!
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Davidlindland
Considering many will be paying north of $30,000, two things would be cool:

A) No water leaks (talk about the quality control people not giving a sh*t!)

B) The carpet install not looking like Ray Charles did it.

Love my 2011 Jeep but seriously, as these prices climb the quality better follow.
Don't forget death wobble, clunky dump truck steering and crappy ball joints.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
Anyone else notice that the gear ratios are reduced?

Sport went from 3:73 to 3:21
Rubi went from 4:10 to 3:73

Why would they do that??? so stupid!!!!
Because the new 5 speed auto has a lower top gear ratio than the current 4 speed auto.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 03:12 AM
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From what I can tell the new 5 spd tranny will have a 3.59 1st gear ratio vs the current 4 spd's 2.84.

2011 4 spd auto 4.11 x 2.84=11.67
2012 5 spd auto 3.73 x 3.59=13.39

That would be like have a 4.71 rear with the 4spd
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
Don't forget death wobble, clunky dump truck steering and crappy ball joints.
Think we will have to wait until next redesign for real changes. From Popular Mechanics this past December:

"We'd guess the creature-comfort attention Jeep is giving to the long-unrefined interior implies there may be bigger exterior and engineering changes in the next redesign, tentatively scheduled two years from now. We'll have to wait and see."
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cbcwrangler
Think we will have to wait until next redesign for real changes. From Popular Mechanics this past December:

"We'd guess the creature-comfort attention Jeep is giving to the long-unrefined interior implies there may be bigger exterior and engineering changes in the next redesign, tentatively scheduled two years from now. We'll have to wait and see."
So we should see the next model Wrangler around 2014?
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
So we should see the next model Wrangler around 2014?
You have to figure it would be around there. 7 years is a long time to go with a model w/o major revisions anymore. Who knows though since the Wrangler doesn't have any real competition with the Defender having depareted the market. There is nothing as profitable as getting extra years out of your tooling and design. If no competition is pushing you to improve, they may hang on to the JK even longer.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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Didn't the CJ 7 go from 1976 to 1986 ? YJ, '87-95, TJ '96 -2006 (early release- bought one in the Spring of '96 ) Hopefully, the JK will go as long before sheet metal changes take place. The real driving force for change, once Fiat swallows Chrysler, will be the 2016 "Fuel Economy" standards, in the high 20s for light trucks- correct me if I'm wrong. The only way to get those figures would most likely be the -gasp! Diesel and /or major sheet metal design changes. Always an Adventure trying to read the Crystal Ball...
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WCDAVE
You have to figure it would be around there. 7 years is a long time to go with a model w/o major revisions anymore. Who knows though since the Wrangler doesn't have any real competition with the Defender having depareted the market. There is nothing as profitable as getting extra years out of your tooling and design. If no competition is pushing you to improve, they may hang on to the JK even longer.
They have to redesign soon for new fuel economy regs, and all new Land Rover Defender is coming back next year, with soft top option, although not yet clear if it will be sold in the U.S. - although I would not bet against it.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cbcwrangler
They have to redesign soon for new fuel economy regs, and all new Land Rover Defender is coming back next year, with soft top option, although not yet clear if it will be sold in the U.S. - although I would not bet against it.
When do those fuel econ regs go into effect?
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