snorkels... pros & cons
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Texas
Darn it, I guess I forgot to get out and take pictures of myself crossing the Mighty Miss. Why are you up in arms with the whole military thing? Was my point not valid? Jeeps and other off road vehicles travel in the same terrain as most military vehicles. Pre-filters do actually pre clean the incoming air, hence its name. There have been plenty of examples of vehicles in dusty, sandy places having snorkels shown in this thread. You just continue to bash them by name-calling and requesting more data. And I do in fact take my jeep to the mall! That one sure hurt.
But who water fordes everyday.
My JK took in water at 24" maybe a bad seal somewhere. Why would you need a roof level snorkel when over the hood water level is pretty risky.
Other than that its just a long straw sucking dust. Just like a underhood filter.
JK Super Freak
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Goodyear, Arizona
Does everyone ford water daily? No
Are snorkels are needed item for above the windshield? No
Can a high mount snorkel save your motor? Yes. It has saved me once.
Do snorkels pull in extra dust? Not necessarily.
Is constantly telling people why they don't need a snorkel making you seem more credible or intelligent? No.
Are snorkels are needed item for above the windshield? No
Can a high mount snorkel save your motor? Yes. It has saved me once.
Do snorkels pull in extra dust? Not necessarily.
Is constantly telling people why they don't need a snorkel making you seem more credible or intelligent? No.
JK Super Freak
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Danville, Indiana
Okay GI Joe. Follow the Mall Crawl Scene.
And yes I am a Bad Ass Mechanical Engineer. I take no offense to any comments in this thread. Yet Snork Dorks do. I would like to see data that shows benefits for dust removal.
I don't doubt it's water fording ability. But if you cross anything deeper than your hood. That bitch will float away. So get off your Mil Spec soap box. I was not commenting on drowning a jeep. That dude from Israel was saying a Snork helps with dust. It does not. Add a vortex cleaner under the hood for dust removal. Its a round thing under the hood that creates a vortex to drop sand out before flowing thru filter element.
Military Vehicles do not compare to your Mall Crawler. Please post a pic of your Jeep's water fording ability.
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And yes I am a Bad Ass Mechanical Engineer. I take no offense to any comments in this thread. Yet Snork Dorks do. I would like to see data that shows benefits for dust removal.
I don't doubt it's water fording ability. But if you cross anything deeper than your hood. That bitch will float away. So get off your Mil Spec soap box. I was not commenting on drowning a jeep. That dude from Israel was saying a Snork helps with dust. It does not. Add a vortex cleaner under the hood for dust removal. Its a round thing under the hood that creates a vortex to drop sand out before flowing thru filter element.
Military Vehicles do not compare to your Mall Crawler. Please post a pic of your Jeep's water fording ability.
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JK Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Texas
You've made some good points that certainly have made me rethink the value of snorkels for dust, at least without a vortex device or prefilter, but the arrogant commentary accompanying them takes away from their effectiveness. Usually, people are above that on this forum. I'm sure you can find a better way to offer your expertise and thereby earn the respect you think you deserve.
People think Jeep owners should share a bond just because they own a jeep.
Am I arrogant......yes. Did I make a point.....yes. Do I care about earning respect or cred......Not via internet. I keep my ride simple.
I found this entertaining....yet still boring.
Thanks for the comments. Hope to see you on the trail.
This will be my last post.
Ernie
JK Super Freak
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From: Dallas, Texas
Actually, the only thing he is say that has some logic is that there are alternatives. He has not proven the lack of effectiveness of the snorkel. The fact that basic snorkels w/o prefilters are consistently used on desert vehicles would suggest a practice that works. If you notice no difference using a snorkel in the desert would you continue to use one? Probably not.
As for hydro locking your engine... it only takes a puddle. The JK intake is up against the hood and the serpentine belt will pull water up against the hood. In just a couple of minutes i found these examples. I remember reading a bunch of these in the past. All had the same story. It nearly happened to me. Small puddle and my filter was wet. That is why I got my snorkel.
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-t...e-help-254281/
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/stoc...e-dead-308492/
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-t...estart-297325/
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modi...-start-297876/
As for hydro locking your engine... it only takes a puddle. The JK intake is up against the hood and the serpentine belt will pull water up against the hood. In just a couple of minutes i found these examples. I remember reading a bunch of these in the past. All had the same story. It nearly happened to me. Small puddle and my filter was wet. That is why I got my snorkel.
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-t...e-help-254281/
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/stoc...e-dead-308492/
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-t...estart-297325/
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modi...-start-297876/
JK Freak
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Marshall, Texas
Engineers..... I love engineers. Eapecially the ones that think they are the only smart people in the room. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_L...hool_explosion
I still want a snorkle. Maybe i want it just for looks, because in the end, im the only one i am out to impress.
Maybe i will get the chance to test it out one day? No real downside to me.
I still want a snorkle. Maybe i want it just for looks, because in the end, im the only one i am out to impress.
Maybe i will get the chance to test it out one day? No real downside to me.
Last edited by Earth Siege; Jan 15, 2015 at 07:06 PM.
