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Superchips Flashpaq for JK, Initial Impressions

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by albrechtmj
On mine, when you select quick tune, I get several options. They include 93 Octane, 91 Octane, and 87 Octane.

I don't think the word "Performance" is there, but it is definitely WAY better than stock.


--Mike
Mine shows the 93 and 91 but not 87. I never planned to run 93 (not available in AZ) or 91. I saw the dyno's somewhere (could have sworn it was on Superchips page but it's no longer there) and there was only a 3-4hp difference between the two and maybe 7tq. Don't quote me on the numbers as the link I had saved to it now just goes to the main page.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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I have the Hypertech. If you want to swap I'll kick in some bucks and trade with you.

I live down the street from Superchips. If it doesnt' work, I'll go sit on their desks :-)
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Before taking Mickey to the dealer i returned the computer to stock settings now she is back and ready to be chipped should I connect my superchip and see if there are any update or just go ahead and install the superchip note i have not recieved any updates from superchip and yeah everything was working fine before i returned to stock
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Weedo
Ok, very interesting. The entire reason I went with the Flashpaq was based on the recommendations that the Superchips allowed you to change shift points and shift firmness. When I called Hypertech (after installing it) I found out it did NOT have the trans settings. I called Superchips and they told me the Flashpaq for the Jeep indeed DID have those settings. I bought it.
First, I'll preface this by saying I have a 6 speed in my JK. In my Dodge Ram I have an automatic where WOT shift point adjustments are possible with my Flashpaq. To me they aren't real useful unless I want to remind myself that it's possible to cut loose the tires upon the 1-2 shift. Shift firmness adjustment would be nice, there is already some there but nut with user adjustability like in the GM Trucks.

Originally Posted by Weedo
When I called in to say, "For some reason mine is missing settings...." we discussed those that were missing. He agreed that those should be in my flashpaq and wasn't sure why they weren't. 10 days later (now) they're still not sure why mine doesn't have have the settings when others do. I've spoken with them now 6 times on the phone and twice they've gone to Engineering with the question. Engineering told him they're not sure why some are working and some are not other than the "different computer issue per vehicle that Jeep/Dodge/etc have". Now, could the gentleman that's handling my ticket# and Engineering not know that these are not available? I suppose that's possible, but just doesn't seem logical that they have no idea what's going on.
Some of the features you mention I know are not finished. If those go from tech support to engineering, it's not going to get anywhere as the SC Chrysler team of engineers already have a priority list of things they are working on. Not that they won't get done, but there is a great deal of crossover in dealing with the Chrysler PCM and each platform provides it's own set of issues.

Originally Posted by Weedo
What's "missing" from mine is in red below:

Per my Superchips Instruction Manual:

Automatic Trasmission Shift Points:
See page 11 of the Getting Started Guide for feature description.

Automatic Trasmission Shift Pressure:
See page 11 of the Getting Started Guide for feature description.

Per the Getting Started Guide:
Adjust transmission points for optimized drivability and operation. Varies by vehicle.
Adjust transmission pressure in PSI to allow for a more aggressive shift. Varies by vehicle.

Rev Limiter
87 Octane Performance
Crawling Tune
Rev Limiter
Towing


I bought this for 3 reason, 2 of which aren't on my Flashpaq:
1. Changed tire height
2. Shift firmness & shift points
3. 87 Octane Performance
Some of those options should be available to you and others are pending. It also sounds as if your tuner hasn't been updated as some of the features you list as unavailable were not available when I first received mine early on, and only became available with updates. Also, it matters little with what the build date of your Flashpaq is, the first part of the process is always to do an update.

Again, speak to Ron Rapp in their tech support program. Separate your issues from features that are to date undelivered. Then you'll have a solid base of what the product can and can't do at this date and in turn make the decision if it's the right product for you.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Zak
Before taking Mickey to the dealer i returned the computer to stock settings now she is back and ready to be chipped should I connect my superchip and see if there are any update or just go ahead and install the superchip note i have not recieved any updates from superchip and yeah everything was working fine before i returned to stock
A trip to the dealer and having everything returned to stock is in my opinion the best time to do an update. Then if something goes wrong or you get too busy to install a tune you can figure out how much you miss it.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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Have you tried advanced tune rather than quick tune? That's where I found the tire height and 87 octane. As far as shift points, when I tuned it, the shift points automatically changed, much for the better.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by seer1
Have you tried advanced tune rather than quick tune? That's where I found the tire height and 87 octane. As far as shift points, when I tuned it, the shift points automatically changed, much for the better.
Yes.......normally it's just because you calibrated the speedo. For awhile I didn't think that my tranny was really doing any better, and everybody else was saying that theirs were. I found out that it was only because I was just driving it pretty mellow. The other day I really romped on it and THEN I noticed the change in the tranny.....
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Note:

I just got the Flashpaq. According to my Flashpaq Manual and I quote...

"87 Octane
Optimizes settings allowing 91 octane required or recommended vehicles to safely use 87 Octane gasoline".

This is NOTa performance enhancement.

HOWEVER:
According to my Jeep Flashpaq Special Instruction Manual Insert.
There should be an 87 Performance enhancement that does the following.. and I quote directly from the insert:

"87 Performance requires the use of 87 Octane gas and is used for extra horsepower, torque, and driveability for on-road and off-road uses. The tune is calibrated for 2WD, 4WD-HI and 4WD-LO uses. This tune is available for all Jeeps covered by Superchips."


GUESS WHAT? That option is NOWHERE in my flashpaq settings options!!!

How irritating! Neither is the Auto transmission shift points.. OR the TPMS function either!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by feroxjb
Note:

I just got the Flashpaq. According to my Flashpaq Manual and I quote...

"87 Octane
Optimizes settings allowing 91 octane required or recommended vehicles to safely use 87 Octane gasoline".

This is NOTa performance enhancement.

HOWEVER:
According to my Jeep Flashpaq Special Instruction Manual Insert.
There should be an 87 Performance enhancement that does the following.. and I quote directly from the insert:

"87 Performance requires the use of 87 Octane gas and is used for extra horsepower, torque, and driveability for on-road and off-road uses. The tune is calibrated for 2WD, 4WD-HI and 4WD-LO uses. This tune is available for all Jeeps covered by Superchips."


GUESS WHAT? That option is NOWHERE in my flashpaq settings options!!!

How irritating! Neither is the Auto transmission shift points.. OR the TPMS function either!
Haven't you been reading what has been posted???
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by feroxjb
Note:

I just got the Flashpaq. According to my Flashpaq Manual and I quote...

"87 Octane
Optimizes settings allowing 91 octane required or recommended vehicles to safely use 87 Octane gasoline".

This is NOTa performance enhancement.

HOWEVER:
According to my Jeep Flashpaq Special Instruction Manual Insert.
There should be an 87 Performance enhancement that does the following.. and I quote directly from the insert:

"87 Performance requires the use of 87 Octane gas and is used for extra horsepower, torque, and driveability for on-road and off-road uses. The tune is calibrated for 2WD, 4WD-HI and 4WD-LO uses. This tune is available for all Jeeps covered by Superchips."


GUESS WHAT? That option is NOWHERE in my flashpaq settings options!!!

How irritating! Neither is the Auto transmission shift points.. OR the TPMS function either!
On my Hemi Ram that requires higher than 87 Octane I am able to use 87 Octane with better performance than running stock with higher Octane.

On my JK Wrangler which only requires 87 Octane I have both a stock and an 87 Octane setting. I have been so impressed with the 87 Octane setting that I rarely use the higher Octane settings. The tow setting is my favorite for rolling around, although I'm pretty sure I'm getting a little too much crank case pressure and seeing some modest oil burn through the breather.

So I'm not sure what you're missing. If you see an 87 Octane setting it is definitely a boost in performance and much different than stock. The other 87 Octane Superchips verbiage is for Hemi owners of different vehicles.

I have a 6 speed so I can't directly comment about the shift points and firmness, but there have been a host of auto users who have confirmed that their shift points and firmness have changed.

On my Hemi Ram I do have the shift point adjustment but only at WOT. It's not that useful unless you plan on drag racing your JK. What I know to be in process is a much more robust set of auto transmission settings that unfortunately you'll need to wait for.

As for the TPMS there are a ton of posts here stating that it's to date unavailable. If it's a feature you really need to have then you should act accordingly. For me the performance I received out of the gate was worth the price of admission and the rest is gravy and I can patiently wait for it
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