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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyCurmudgeon
(still kickin myself for selling my 22/410 over and under though, that was a nice rifle and i was an idiot to sell it.)
You and me both brother....I had my mother's old, old, OLD Savage 22/410 OU and sold it for peanuts. Stupid move for sure......so don't feel alone.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gijeep
maybe im sick and twisted, i dont want them to hear me coming if someone breaks in.
You're not sick and twisted. That is called tactical advantage. Same as concealed vs. open carry. Why let the BG now where you are and what you're doing.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 05:54 AM
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Stick to the XDM 45 it will for sure slow someone down...
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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VERY Nice!!


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I love traditional.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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I'm glad Colorado is a 'Castle Doctrine' state. As long as the bad guy/criminal/rapist/burglar/murderer falls dead inside my home, the cops will thank me for my service and be on their merry way.

870, loaded, under the bed. (No kids in my house.)

Kimber ultra carry 45 in my nightstand at night or on my hip during the day.

I don't think the bad guy should get to hear the racking of my pump shotgun unless he's survived the first blast of large, 00-buck holes into his center of mass.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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single shot 12 ga with birdshot --> makes a nasty hole at close range and there is no way in hell they will get all those bb's out

if shotgun fails:
sig 226 16round +3 extra 15rnd mags JHP

if sig fails:
ak-74 30 rounds 5.45x39 SP + 1 extra 30 round mag of SP and 12 - 30 round mags of FMJ

if AK fails:
zombies have invaded and everyone is dead... refer to games like fallout 3, left 4 dead, and dead rising for survival techniques.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Tag for later
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TAMPAJEEPER
What is a good shotgun to buy for home defense? I would like to stay under $400.00. Thanks
I'd recommend the Winchester Model 1300 Defender. Winchester stopped making them, but I heard they will begin making them again soon. However, you can pick one up used fairly cheap. It has a rotating locking bolt that holds the gases and gives you a slightly higher muzzle velocity. I'd stick with 00 buck shot, but if you live in a apartment complex or town house, I'd go with the reduced recoil loads. It's still 00 buck (about the size of a .32 cal round, and there are generally 9 of them to a shell) without as much penetration.

I taught CQB in Special Forces and I recommend you take a course on home defense. There are a bunch of legal issues you need to know about before you shoot someone. And if you do shoot anyone, kill them. If you're not willing to kill someone, don't buy a gun. The person will take it away from you and shot you with it.

You'll need a locking gun safe to keep the weapon secured. It can be an anchored locking case or spend the money on a gun safe. You don't want to have to screw with a trigger guard or a cable lock through the breach if you need the weapon. It takes me less than 6 seconds to open my gun safe.

A pistol is a great side arm, but the shotgun is more versatile. You can buy different loads to handle different problems and reloading is simple. I put ghost ring rear sights and a standard rifle front sight on my Winchester and I can accurately hit targets out to 150 meters.

I also recommend you carry rounds on either a butt stock keeper or a sidesaddle rig. The last thing you want to do is have to hunt for ammunition. Do not keep ammo in the weapon. Someone will rack a round in the chamber and blow a hole in something screwing around. The rounds on the weapon can be loaded in seconds. I keep extra rounds on the door tray so I can grab them in a hurry.

You shouldn't need more than a few rounds in home defense, if you do, you're under siege and in a lot more trouble than you think. You can keep a bandoleer of 12 gauge ammo hanging on the weapon so you can grab it and the weapon if you need it. The advantage of the bandoleer is that you can mix your loads. You may want buck shot for up to 50 meters, but want to reach out and touch someone with a sabot or slug out to 100 meters.

The last bit of advice is to have a plan. You don't want to shoot your wife (or maybe you do ). I don't recommend the average person confront a burglar or other criminal if you don't need to. Secure your location; call the cops; comfort the wife and kids. Make sure you tell the police dispatcher where you are in the home and you're armed. You don't want the cops shooting you by accident, and they don't play nice with people with firearms.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Trail_blaster

You may want buck shot for up to 50 meters, but want to reach out and touch someone with a sabot or slug out to 100 meters.

I think at 50-100 meters you have surpassed your legal self defense range, unless you're in an open field and their returning fire. I also believe after you pass the 50yd mark; you really need a rifle.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trail_blaster
Do not keep ammo in the weapon.


You keep it in a safe and unloaded??
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