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Superchips Flashpaq for JK, Initial Impressions

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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 05:27 AM
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Thanks for the response, but the online store wont let me "buy" the TPMS package because apparently it is already updated. I also don't think I have an 87 tune option??? I think just 87 octane?? That isn't the same right? 87 octane is just to get a vehicle requiring 91 octane to be able to use 87 octane I thought?? I'll hook it up and look again to make sure....

Ugh I didn't think this process would be this involved
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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The 87 (whatever) is the same tune. It's designed to get a little more power out of regular gas.

As for TPMS you have to call SC. They will email you a release form, you have to email them back with "I agree". Your SC serial number and then they well update your programmer. I would also have them add the trans temp file. That way you can see your temp.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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Great feedback thanks!
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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Yes that is correct, and that is why the relearn feature has been shelved for the moment until we move towards creating a Trail Jammer EXT performance kit for the JK's like we now have for the TJ's. We can then provide a custom tune that works with a Superchips branded big bore throttle body and CAI kit as a complete performance package.


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Originally Posted by JPop
My understanding is that the larger bore throttle bodies need to be calibrated for, not just a re-learn. The issue being that at tip in they will allow a fair amount more air in and at WOT the engine can't pull enough air to have an effect. So if you have a fuel fat A/F ratio at low rpms your fine (such as stock) and if you are closer to stoich with a tuner you'll be pulling too much air and running lean.

Anyway, that's why I was told that it would take more than just a simple relearn to make the Flashpaq work with the large bore throttle bodies.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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does this chip leave a foot print and void your warranty from the factory
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by k.baker B.D.O.R
does this chip leave a foot print and void your warranty from the factory
As long as you get 50+ miles on after setting back to stock there is no footprint. From my understanding there just isn't the storage for it but you need to get the miles in to overwrite the free space. If you return to stock in the parking lot and then roll into the dealer's garage, they'll be able to see a footprint.

Also, this isn't all that big of a deal as the service techs in large look the other way. Many of them have tuners on their personal vehicles and don't care one way or the other. Diesel vehicles are quite different and those definitely warrant a closer look. Like anything else, don't get into a pissing match with them and everything will be OK. Also take the time rolling stock before taking your vehicle in to rebuild the learned data. If they look and it's totally clean, of course they're going to know what time it is.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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So for those of us in the Mountain states, that can't get 87 octane. Is there any downside to running these tunes at the 85/86 octane level that we buy. Or will I be forced to run higher (more expensive) gas.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by schmugboy
So for those of us in the Mountain states, that can't get 87 octane. Is there any downside to running these tunes at the 85/86 octane level that we buy. Or will I be forced to run higher (more expensive) gas.

Thanks,

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With the 87 tune, you will be better off going with the next highest octane available. Running less than 87 octane with that tune will more than likely cause detonation due to the advanced timing
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by schmugboy
So for those of us in the Mountain states, that can't get 87 octane. Is there any downside to running these tunes at the 85/86 octane level that we buy. Or will I be forced to run higher (more expensive) gas.

Thanks,

DD
The same rules apply for a Flashpaq that do for the octane ratings available in the mountain states. Without any complicated formula, every 2500' above sea level you are you can drop 1 point of octane because of the thinner air. I'd still start out a bit conservatively using a higher octane and then try to make some multiple trips to refill after burning a quarter tank or so until the re-learn process starts to take hold.

Also, what Octane ratings do you have available? For efficiency/value in the summer months I run the 91 tune with 91 octane. You might be able to find the same successes I've had running 89 on the 91 tune and more than worth it for the extra dime a gallon.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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We generally have 86,88, & 91. I think I understand what you are saying, although I am not sure the higher octane is truly the best value, unless you also include any performance benefit. Just straight mpg per cost I don't see the benefit of the extra octane. I have decided on the super chips instead of the other options, although the new android based tuners look cool.
Jpop I'll try your suggestions and see what happens.

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Dd
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