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Superchips Flashpaq for JK, Initial Impressions

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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JKsJK
i tracked 4 tank-fulls prior to the purchase, because i was buying an exhaust and wanted to see if there was any difference. the exhaust and tuner arrived within 5 days of each other and i just couldn't wait to run the 3 or 4 tank-fulls with just the exhaust to determine the exhaust impact. once the initial thrill wears off i might return it to stock settings and calculate the tuner's mpg impact. i doubt it though.
Thanks fer the welcome! Yeah I don't think I could hold back either. The only real reason I am not doing multiple things at once, I am outta the green stuff
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepnxj3
I think I am sold on this. Where did you pick yours up Jpop? Cheapest I found was $319 at a non-vendor site.
I have these for $305.99. If you would like to order please PM me or call me at 800-333-5535 ext 938, and I have plenty in stock.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Big thanks to Northridge4x4!!

Got my flashpaq today and installed tune right away (after recomended update) with no problems at all!! I am currently running 91 oct and when i set it to the 91 tune, i herd pinging/detonation. I ran the tank empty before puting in 91 and have been using 91 for 2 tank fulls so there is no mix of 87 and 91 (i was getting it ready for the tune...lol). Anyway im thinking its the spark plugs. Im coming up to 28k miles and dont think they have ever been changed. I went down to the towing tune (love the low end torque!) and pinging/detonation went away for the most part. I can still hear it very lightly. Im gonna play it safe and take it easy until the computer learns the tune. I'll do the spark plugs this weekend and hopefuly runs better.

Thank everyone here for their input!

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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Here in NE Indiana most gas stations only offer 87, 89, and 93 octane. No sign of 91 at any Shell or Marathon I've been to in recent weeks. Wonder if the Superchips engineers would be interested in an 89 octane tune?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by viper02
Here in NE Indiana most gas stations only offer 87, 89, and 93 octane. No sign of 91 at any Shell or Marathon I've been to in recent weeks. Wonder if the Superchips engineers would be interested in an 89 octane tune?
they do have a 93 if you are interested in that route. i would call them and let them know. i clearly have no idea what is involved in developing a specific octane tune, but let them know you are looking. if enough people speak up they may develop one - they may even have one in the works.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JKsJK
i tracked 4 tank-fulls prior to the purchase, because i was buying an exhaust and wanted to see if there was any difference. the exhaust and tuner arrived within 5 days of each other and i just couldn't wait to run the 3 or 4 tank-fulls with just the exhaust to determine the exhaust impact. once the initial thrill wears off i might return it to stock settings and calculate the tuner's mpg impact. i doubt it though.
That's too funny. When I first got my JK and a couple weeks in received all my goodies I had kind of planned out in which order I was going to install them so I could log the results. I think I looked at the stuff for about 5 minutes and started in on installing the CAI, exhaust and headers all at once. I don't think I ran two tanks of fuel before my first programmer arrived and pretty much installed that as well out of the box.

The performance was certainly good, but the only thing I could really accurately check without a whole lot of intervention was my first programmer. I didn't find much if any performance gains turning it on or off which was led me down the Superchips path. No question I don't need to scratch my head if the Flashpaq is working or not, and I'd probably be kicking and screaming like a little baby if you took it away from me.

I certainly understand the wisdom of making a single change and noting the results from my drag racing experience, but dealing with the PCM is quite a different experience as it might take a full tank of fuel for the computer to take to the changes. That's why I threw caution to the wind and made the wholesale changes. No regrets about going that direction and it left the majority of the onus on the programmer and again, I couldn't be happier with the Flashpaq.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by viper02
Here in NE Indiana most gas stations only offer 87, 89, and 93 octane. No sign of 91 at any Shell or Marathon I've been to in recent weeks. Wonder if the Superchips engineers would be interested in an 89 octane tune?
On my Dodge Ram with the Superchips I have the same dilemma. No 91 Octane to be found at most gas stations but certainly plenty of places with 93 and 94 Octane. To take advantage of the Superchips 91 Octane setting, I was splitting tank fulls between the 87 and 94 Octane, to get somewhere near 91. After thinking it through a bit, I came to realize that one of the ways that any of the tuners is achieving more power is to advance timing as much as possible, and then back it off with the knock sensors and adjust A/F mixtures with the O2 sensors.

With a modestly higher octane, and higher octane fuel burning slower, the Flashpaq combined with the PCM has the opportunity to not back off the advance as much. Certainly this isn't ideal and having a match in programmer settings to octane would be better but running slightly rich isn't all that problematic outside of potentially fouling plugs a little earlier. When I checked my plugs after running a couple tanks full at +2 Octane level pretty much demonstrated to me that this wasn't an issue and a couple months down the line I didn't see any ill effects either.

I'd certainly like to see the same 93 setting for the Ram as I have for the Jeep, but I'm not sweating it in the least.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustabizz
I have these for $305.99. If you would like to order please PM me or call me at 800-333-5535 ext 938, and I have plenty in stock.
shipped price?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JKsJK
they do have a 93 if you are interested in that route. i would call them and let them know. i clearly have no idea what is involved in developing a specific octane tune, but let them know you are looking. if enough people speak up they may develop one - they may even have one in the works.
Just fired off an email to them. Will post any responses I get.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by greenamphibious
shipped price?
We can ship it to a 4 Wheel Parts for free for you to pick up, or regular shipping would be $15, plus tax in applicable states.
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